From electrodyne at gmail.com Fri May 18 01:06:58 2007 From: electrodyne at gmail.com (John Ward) Date: Fri May 18 01:07:00 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] First post Message-ID: <8ba9df090705172206p6d9a9fb4y709726449c34c5c0@mail.gmail.com> Hey all. Adrastos Hierarch of Colorado Springs -John Ward us2002022842 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cammail.white-wolf.com/pipermail/hierarchs/attachments/20070517/ac55a5e5/attachment.html From crose at deadletteroffice.org Fri May 18 20:21:24 2007 From: crose at deadletteroffice.org (Charles Rose) Date: Fri May 18 20:21:32 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] First post In-Reply-To: <8ba9df090705172206p6d9a9fb4y709726449c34c5c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ba9df090705172206p6d9a9fb4y709726449c34c5c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0e3a01c799ab$a24bc340$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> I think it's just you and me here... Later, Tripp Herring Hierarch of Atlanta, GA OOC: Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most notably known for Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the Atlanta Falcons. Charlie Rose US2002021149 _____ From: hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com [mailto:hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com] On Behalf Of John Ward Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 1:07 AM To: hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com Subject: [Hierarchs] First post Hey all. Adrastos Hierarch of Colorado Springs -John Ward us2002022842 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cammail.white-wolf.com/pipermail/hierarchs/attachments/20070518/19e41913/attachment.html From crose at deadletteroffice.org Fri May 18 20:36:19 2007 From: crose at deadletteroffice.org (Charles Rose) Date: Fri May 18 20:36:31 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] First post In-Reply-To: <8C967C36E9A70CC-1270-5BE4@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> References: <8ba9df090705172206p6d9a9fb4y709726449c34c5c0@mail.gmail.com> <0e3a01c799ab$a24bc340$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> <8C967C36E9A70CC-1270-5BE4@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <0e4601c799ad$b85a8340$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> Good to hear!! Later, Tripp Herring OOC: NOTE: It appears as if this list is configured by default to go only to the poster, not the list, when you reply. Try using Reply to all!! Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most notably known for Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the Atlanta Falcons. Charlie Rose US2002021149 > -----Original Message----- > From: tygore1@aol.com [mailto:tygore1@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:26 PM > To: crose@deadletteroffice.org > Subject: Re: [Hierarchs] First post > > I am here. > > > Psyfur Uhr > Heirarch of Los Angeles > *************** > > Jarrod Iversen ADST-LA > US2003102404-9512038 > Phoenix House, LA CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: crose@deadletteroffice.org > To: hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com > Sent: Fri, 18 May 2007 5:21 PM > Subject: RE: [Hierarchs] First post > > I think it's just you and me here... > ? > Later, > Tripp Herring > Hierarch of Atlanta, GA > OOC: > > Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most > notably known for Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the > Atlanta Falcons. > > Charlie Rose > US2002021149 > > > > -------- > From: hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com > [mailto:hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com] On Behalf > Of John Ward > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 1:07 AM > To: hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com > Subject: [Hierarchs] First post > > > > Hey all. > > Adrastos > Hierarch of Colorado Springs > > -John Ward > us2002022842 > > _______________________________________________ > Hierarchs mailing list > Hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com > http://cammail.white-wolf.com/mailman/listinfo/hierarchs > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about > what's free > from AOL at AOL.com. > =0 > > From electrodyne at gmail.com Fri May 18 21:30:30 2007 From: electrodyne at gmail.com (John Ward) Date: Fri May 18 21:30:33 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] First post In-Reply-To: <0e3a01c799ab$a24bc340$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> References: <8ba9df090705172206p6d9a9fb4y709726449c34c5c0@mail.gmail.com> <0e3a01c799ab$a24bc340$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> Message-ID: <8ba9df090705181830ged5a5edh1601995bd15217b6@mail.gmail.com> Well I'll just take the opportunity to thank you for your kind hospitality this weekend, Adrastos Hierarch of Colorado Springs -John Ward us2002022842 On 5/18/07, Charles Rose wrote: > > I think it's just you and me here... > > > Later, > Tripp Herring > Hierarch of Atlanta, GA > OOC: > > Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most notably known > for Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the Atlanta Falcons. > > Charlie Rose > US2002021149 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com [mailto: > hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com] *On Behalf Of *John Ward > *Sent:* Friday, May 18, 2007 1:07 AM > *To:* hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com > *Subject:* [Hierarchs] First post > > Hey all. > > Adrastos > Hierarch of Colorado Springs > > -John Ward > us2002022842 > > > _______________________________________________ > Hierarchs mailing list > Hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com > http://cammail.white-wolf.com/mailman/listinfo/hierarchs > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cammail.white-wolf.com/pipermail/hierarchs/attachments/20070518/32c98adb/attachment.html From mutantur at gmail.com Sat May 19 03:08:44 2007 From: mutantur at gmail.com (Ian Fabry) Date: Sat May 19 03:08:45 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] First post In-Reply-To: <0e3a01c799ab$a24bc340$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> References: <8ba9df090705172206p6d9a9fb4y709726449c34c5c0@mail.gmail.com> <0e3a01c799ab$a24bc340$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> Message-ID: <7de5fa690705190008o70fd43c6oe06d4706a1b0d0@mail.gmail.com> Looks like you're wrong. I'm told you had a real big shindig this past weekend, hope everything went well. Oh, and hey. Glad this list's here now, I'm sure it's going to be useful. Hesiod Hierarch and Thyrsus Councilor of DeKalb, IL On 5/18/07, Charles Rose wrote: > > > I think it's just you and me here... > > > > Later, > Tripp Herring > Hierarch of Atlanta, GA > OOC: > > Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most notably known for > Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the Atlanta Falcons. > > Charlie Rose > US2002021149 > > > ________________________________ > From: hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com > [mailto:hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com] On Behalf > Of John Ward > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 1:07 AM > To: hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com > Subject: [Hierarchs] First post > > > Hey all. > > Adrastos > Hierarch of Colorado Springs > > -John Ward > us2002022842 > > _______________________________________________ > Hierarchs mailing list > Hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com > http://cammail.white-wolf.com/mailman/listinfo/hierarchs > > -- Ian Fabry GL ARC Outreach US2002127010 From morningsprite at gmail.com Sat May 19 10:18:49 2007 From: morningsprite at gmail.com (Lesley Packel) Date: Sat May 19 10:18:52 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] First post In-Reply-To: <0e3a01c799ab$a24bc340$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> References: <8ba9df090705172206p6d9a9fb4y709726449c34c5c0@mail.gmail.com> <0e3a01c799ab$a24bc340$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> Message-ID: <55a1ee3a0705190718i6950c7e5q95ea61260e7aa975@mail.gmail.com> hey Tripp! I'm here too. Sunny Heirarch, Washington, DC 2007/5/18, Charles Rose : > > > I think it's just you and me here... > > > > Later, > Tripp Herring > Hierarch of Atlanta, GA > OOC: > > Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most notably known for > Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the Atlanta Falcons. > > Charlie Rose > US2002021149 > > > ________________________________ > From: hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com > [mailto:hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com] On Behalf > Of John Ward > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 1:07 AM > To: hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com > Subject: [Hierarchs] First post > > > Hey all. > > Adrastos > Hierarch of Colorado Springs > > -John Ward > us2002022842 > > _______________________________________________ > Hierarchs mailing list > Hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com > http://cammail.white-wolf.com/mailman/listinfo/hierarchs > > -- Lesley Packel US2002034741 Agent Q.T.3.1415 US ANST Dreaming Dark Lord of Cute You can complain because roses have thorns. Or you can rejoice that thorns have roses. - Ziggy We can't become what we need by remaining what we are. - Max Dupree From crose at deadletteroffice.org Sat May 19 10:38:14 2007 From: crose at deadletteroffice.org (Charles Rose) Date: Sat May 19 10:38:25 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] First post In-Reply-To: <7de5fa690705190008o70fd43c6oe06d4706a1b0d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ba9df090705172206p6d9a9fb4y709726449c34c5c0@mail.gmail.com> <0e3a01c799ab$a24bc340$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> <7de5fa690705190008o70fd43c6oe06d4706a1b0d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0ef301c79a23$55067d50$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> > Looks like you're wrong. I'm told you had a real big shindig > this past weekend, hope everything went well. Oh, and hey. > Glad this list's here now, I'm sure it's going to be useful. And glad to be wrong! You could say, that the shindig both went amazingly well, and terribly wrong at the same time. Between this and the Halloween party me and some friends hosted, I am starting to get the big cosmic picture that maybe playing the gracious host for scores of mages isn't a role I should reach for... ;) Later, Tripp Herring Free Council Hierarch of Atlanta OOC: Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most notably known for Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the Atlanta Falcons. Charlie Rose US2002021149 From crose at deadletteroffice.org Sat May 19 10:39:46 2007 From: crose at deadletteroffice.org (Charles Rose) Date: Sat May 19 10:39:55 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] First post In-Reply-To: <55a1ee3a0705190718i6950c7e5q95ea61260e7aa975@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ba9df090705172206p6d9a9fb4y709726449c34c5c0@mail.gmail.com><0e3a01c799ab$a24bc340$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> <55a1ee3a0705190718i6950c7e5q95ea61260e7aa975@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0ef401c79a23$8c4f0430$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> > hey Tripp! > > I'm here too. Sunny! Always a pleasure. No matter what order you are, you always bring a smile to my face. Later, Tripp Herring Free Council Hierarch of Atlanta, GA OOC: Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most notably known for Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the Atlanta Falcons. Charlie Rose US2002021149 From crose at deadletteroffice.org Sat May 19 10:40:34 2007 From: crose at deadletteroffice.org (Charles Rose) Date: Sat May 19 10:40:42 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] Help with Consilium Law Message-ID: <0ef501c79a23$a8b474c0$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> Fearing that there was no one here, I went ahead posted this to the general global forum. Since this is an item of interest to Hierarchs, I am curious your thoughts, as well as what you would do if in my position. Many thanks, Tripp Herring Free Council Hierarch of Atlanta GA OOC: Charles Rose US2002021149 -----Original Message----- From: awakening-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com [mailto:awakening-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rose Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:57 PM To: 'IC list for players in the Awakening venue' Subject: [Awakening] Help with Consilium Law I've got a question that I was hoping others who are more steeped in tradition and the precedents of Consilium Law might be able to assist me with. Recently, another Consilium has attempted to claim the geography and citizens of my Consilium as their own. The citizens of my Consilium have chosen to reject the other Consilium's claims stating they are a member of the Atlanta Consilium and none other. I'm curious about a few items, specifically 1) Can a person hold membership in more than one Consilium?? 2) Can a Consilium claim jurisdiction over another Consilium and what occurs there?? With both of these, I am interested in any wisdom that could be shared. Precedents and case studies would be most valuable! Many thanks in advance! Tripp Herring Hierarch of the Atlanta Consilium OOC: Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most notably known for Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the Atlanta Falcons. Charlie Rose US2002021149 _______________________________________________ Awakening mailing list Awakening@cammail.white-wolf.com http://cammail.white-wolf.com/mailman/listinfo/awakening From electrodyne at gmail.com Sat May 19 11:35:56 2007 From: electrodyne at gmail.com (John Ward) Date: Sat May 19 11:35:59 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] Help with Consilium Law In-Reply-To: <0ef501c79a23$a8b474c0$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> References: <0ef501c79a23$a8b474c0$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> Message-ID: <8ba9df090705190835g6ef48c87h6d854a00632fcc1b@mail.gmail.com> 1) Politely decline, then move on whether they take your refusal or not. Their only option can possibly be to bide their time - if they molest your members in any way, that only predisposes your members against joining the Area Consilium. 2) Season tickets for the first guy to give you advice on this list. -Adrastos Hierarch of Colorado Springs OOC: John Ward us2002022842 On 5/19/07, Charles Rose wrote: > > Fearing that there was no one here, I went ahead posted this to the > general > global forum. Since this is an item of interest to Hierarchs, I am curious > your thoughts, as well as what you would do if in my position. > > Many thanks, > Tripp Herring > Free Council > Hierarch of Atlanta GA > OOC: > Charles Rose > US2002021149 > > -----Original Message----- > From: awakening-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com > [mailto:awakening-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com] On Behalf Of Charles > Rose > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:57 PM > To: 'IC list for players in the Awakening venue' > Subject: [Awakening] Help with Consilium Law > > I've got a question that I was hoping others who are more steeped in > tradition and the precedents of Consilium Law might be able to assist me > with. > > Recently, another Consilium has attempted to claim the geography and > citizens of my Consilium as their own. The citizens of my Consilium have > chosen to reject the other Consilium's claims stating they are a member of > the Atlanta Consilium and none other. > > I'm curious about a few items, specifically > > 1) Can a person hold membership in more than one Consilium?? > > 2) Can a Consilium claim jurisdiction over another Consilium and what > occurs > there?? > > With both of these, I am interested in any wisdom that could be shared. > Precedents and case studies would be most valuable! > > Many thanks in advance! > > Tripp Herring > Hierarch of the Atlanta Consilium > OOC: > > Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most notably known > for > Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the Atlanta Falcons. > > Charlie Rose > US2002021149 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cammail.white-wolf.com/pipermail/hierarchs/attachments/20070519/caf89128/attachment.html From morningsprite at gmail.com Sat May 19 15:37:41 2007 From: morningsprite at gmail.com (Lesley Packel) Date: Sat May 19 15:37:44 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] First post In-Reply-To: <0ef401c79a23$8c4f0430$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> References: <8ba9df090705172206p6d9a9fb4y709726449c34c5c0@mail.gmail.com> <0e3a01c799ab$a24bc340$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> <55a1ee3a0705190718i6950c7e5q95ea61260e7aa975@mail.gmail.com> <0ef401c79a23$8c4f0430$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> Message-ID: <55a1ee3a0705191237j670acbb8r443333dfb0d75b45@mail.gmail.com> aww, thanks! ~Sunny 2007/5/19, Charles Rose : > > hey Tripp! > > > > I'm here too. > > Sunny! > > Always a pleasure. No matter what order you are, you always bring a smile to > my face. > > Later, > Tripp Herring > Free Council > Hierarch of Atlanta, GA > OOC: > > Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most notably known for > Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the Atlanta Falcons. > > Charlie Rose > US2002021149 > > > _______________________________________________ > Hierarchs mailing list > Hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com > http://cammail.white-wolf.com/mailman/listinfo/hierarchs > -- Lesley Packel US2002034741 Agent Q.T.3.1415 US ANST Dreaming Dark Lord of Cute You can complain because roses have thorns. Or you can rejoice that thorns have roses. - Ziggy We can't become what we need by remaining what we are. - Max Dupree From crose at deadletteroffice.org Mon May 21 21:32:53 2007 From: crose at deadletteroffice.org (Charles Rose) Date: Mon May 21 21:33:08 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] Help with Consilium Law In-Reply-To: <8ba9df090705190835g6ef48c87h6d854a00632fcc1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <0ef501c79a23$a8b474c0$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> <8ba9df090705190835g6ef48c87h6d854a00632fcc1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <110201c79c11$1e126e90$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> Adrastos, Thank you for your suggestion. Where I think we've decided to go is to add some new information in our lex magica, identifying that we don't recognize any consilium's authority over our own. The jury is still out on whether or not we will allow members who claim membership in another Consilium. Oh, and anytime you want to take in a game, let me know. Tripp Herring Free Council Hierarch of Atlanta, GA OOC: Charles Rose US2002021149 _____ From: hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com [mailto:hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com] On Behalf Of John Ward Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:36 AM To: hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com Subject: Re: [Hierarchs] Help with Consilium Law 1) Politely decline, then move on whether they take your refusal or not. Their only option can possibly be to bide their time - if they molest your members in any way, that only predisposes your members against joining the Area Consilium. 2) Season tickets for the first guy to give you advice on this list. -Adrastos Hierarch of Colorado Springs OOC: John Ward us2002022842 On 5/19/07, Charles Rose wrote: Fearing that there was no one here, I went ahead posted this to the general global forum. Since this is an item of interest to Hierarchs, I am curious your thoughts, as well as what you would do if in my position. Many thanks, Tripp Herring Free Council Hierarch of Atlanta GA OOC: Charles Rose US2002021149 -----Original Message----- From: awakening-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com [mailto:awakening-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com ] On Behalf Of Charles Rose Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:57 PM To: 'IC list for players in the Awakening venue' Subject: [Awakening] Help with Consilium Law I've got a question that I was hoping others who are more steeped in tradition and the precedents of Consilium Law might be able to assist me with. Recently, another Consilium has attempted to claim the geography and citizens of my Consilium as their own. The citizens of my Consilium have chosen to reject the other Consilium's claims stating they are a member of the Atlanta Consilium and none other. I'm curious about a few items, specifically 1) Can a person hold membership in more than one Consilium?? 2) Can a Consilium claim jurisdiction over another Consilium and what occurs there?? With both of these, I am interested in any wisdom that could be shared. Precedents and case studies would be most valuable! Many thanks in advance! Tripp Herring Hierarch of the Atlanta Consilium OOC: Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most notably known for Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the Atlanta Falcons. Charlie Rose US2002021149 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cammail.white-wolf.com/pipermail/hierarchs/attachments/20070521/1cfd07eb/attachment.html From morningsprite at gmail.com Tue May 22 08:59:17 2007 From: morningsprite at gmail.com (Lesley Packel) Date: Tue May 22 08:59:19 2007 Subject: [Hierarchs] Help with Consilium Law In-Reply-To: <110201c79c11$1e126e90$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> References: <0ef501c79a23$a8b474c0$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> <8ba9df090705190835g6ef48c87h6d854a00632fcc1b@mail.gmail.com> <110201c79c11$1e126e90$9601a8c0@KORANGAR> Message-ID: <55a1ee3a0705220559o7c33d433r4fbf8fdf9b2a1735@mail.gmail.com> Tripp, When I was elected Heirarch, one of the things that the local mages felt was very important was the definition of membership within our Consilium. It was very important to us that membership mean something, so we are in the process of adding into our Lex that no member of the Washington DC Consilium may hold membership in any other Consilium. It has gone over really, well, actually. Sunny Heirarch, Washington DC 2007/5/21, Charles Rose : > > Adrastos, > > Thank you for your suggestion. Where I think we've decided to go is to add > some new information in our lex magica, identifying that we don't recognize > any consilium's authority over our own. The jury is still out on whether or > not we will allow members who claim membership in another Consilium. > > Oh, and anytime you want to take in a game, let me know. > > Tripp Herring > Free Council > Hierarch of Atlanta, GA > OOC: > Charles Rose > US2002021149 > > ________________________________ > From: hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com > [mailto:hierarchs-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com] On Behalf > Of John Ward > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:36 AM > To: hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com > Subject: Re: [Hierarchs] Help with Consilium Law > > > 1) Politely decline, then move on whether they take your refusal or not. > Their only option can possibly be to bide their time - if they molest your > members in any way, that only predisposes your members against joining the > Area Consilium. > > 2) Season tickets for the first guy to give you advice on this list. > > -Adrastos > Hierarch of Colorado Springs > > OOC: > John Ward > us2002022842 > > > On 5/19/07, Charles Rose wrote: > > Fearing that there was no one here, I went ahead posted this to the > general > > global forum. Since this is an item of interest to Hierarchs, I am curious > > your thoughts, as well as what you would do if in my position. > > > > Many thanks, > > Tripp Herring > > Free Council > > Hierarch of Atlanta GA > > OOC: > > Charles Rose > > US2002021149 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: awakening-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com > > [mailto:awakening-bounces@cammail.white-wolf.com ] On > Behalf Of Charles Rose > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:57 PM > > To: 'IC list for players in the Awakening venue' > > Subject: [Awakening] Help with Consilium Law > > > > I've got a question that I was hoping others who are more steeped in > > tradition and the precedents of Consilium Law might be able to assist me > > with. > > > > Recently, another Consilium has attempted to claim the geography and > > citizens of my Consilium as their own. The citizens of my Consilium have > > chosen to reject the other Consilium's claims stating they are a member of > > the Atlanta Consilium and none other. > > > > I'm curious about a few items, specifically > > > > 1) Can a person hold membership in more than one Consilium?? > > > > 2) Can a Consilium claim jurisdiction over another Consilium and what > occurs > > there?? > > > > With both of these, I am interested in any wisdom that could be shared. > > Precedents and case studies would be most valuable! > > > > Many thanks in advance! > > > > Tripp Herring > > Hierarch of the Atlanta Consilium > > OOC: > > > > Fame as a wealthy, spoiled celebutante business man. Most notably known > for > > Status x 2 (NFL), and as the owner of the Atlanta Falcons. > > > > Charlie Rose > > US2002021149 > > _______________________________________________ > Hierarchs mailing list > Hierarchs@cammail.white-wolf.com > http://cammail.white-wolf.com/mailman/listinfo/hierarchs > > -- Lesley Packel US2002034741 Agent Q.T.3.1415 US ANST Dreaming Dark Lord of Cute You can complain because roses have thorns. Or you can rejoice that thorns have roses. - Ziggy We can't become what we need by remaining what we are. - Max Dupree